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  Lean Adams, EMU Roles and Perspectives Interview, 1972

  Leah Adams

  EMU Roles and Perspectives was taped television program broadcast from the campus of EMU, and produced by Robert Hoexter (1930-1978). Hoexter joined the faculty at the EMU School of Education in 1964, and served as Coordinator of Graduate Advising from 1969-1971. A member of the Faculty Senate from 1973-1976, Hoexter was elected vice-chairman from 1974-1975, and chairman, 1975-1976. In this episode of Roles and Perspectives, Hoexter interviews Leah Adams. Dr. Adams served Eastern Michigan University from 1969-1999 as a professor in early childhood education with the EMU College of Education. In this interview, Adams, a strong supporter of the growing preschool programs in the United States, defends the practice of preschooling children by saying that the emergence of preschool fits perfectly within the changing society in which it resides. With the emergence of widespread automobile use, families were able to begin isolating themselves from their neighbors, yet they wanted ways in which to socialize their children. This need for socialization, coupled with the nation’s recent “Sputnik Complex,” lead to parents wanting children to learn faster and sooner. The woman’s role in the household had changed as well, from that of homemaker who was seen to be shirking her motherly duties if she left her child at a daycare center, to that of professional, career-minded woman.

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  Lee Hassenzahl, Interview, 2023

  Katie Delahoyde

  On October 7, 2023, students from the EMU Archives and Oral History Program recorded the stories of EMU students past and present. Using the EMU Aerie, the Archives’ mobile oral history recording booth, student oral historians captured the formative experiences and perspectives of EMU alums from a variety of campus eras. Here, alum Lee Hassenzahl (class of 1972) recounts meeting her husband at EMU, working toward her degree in Education, her grandmother’s graduation from Michigan State Normal College, her work with Vietnamese refugees during the War in Vietnam, and the disparity in pay between men and women.

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  Leonard Posey, Oral History Interview, 2018

  Matt Jones and Rachel Burns

  Leonard Posey is an alumni of Eastern Michigan. He graduated from Eastern Michigan with Bachelors in Business Administration with an emphasis in Management. Posey was an active student on campus, serving in the student senate all four years. Additionally, he was a member of the Black Student Association, during his fourth year as a student here on campus, Posey was elected student body president becoming EMU’s first African American student body president. The last year of Posey’s academic tenure was met with some difficulty when it was squeezed between students and faculty over issues with the student senate, allocation of funds and a clerical workers strike. After graduation, he took a job at the university in the Personnel Department then became interested in educational activism becoming the first Black Wayne-Westland School Board member.

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  Lillie Reimer, Oral History Interview, 2023

  Brooke Boyst

  Brooke Boyst, an EMU Historic Preservation graduate student, interviews Lily Reimer for the Ypsilanti bicentennial celebration. Lily, a recent Eastern Michigan graduate and manager at Literati Bookstore, has lived in Ypsilanti for five years. She values the community's openness, friendliness, and welcoming nature, contrasting it with Ann Arbor's transient population. Lily hopes to be remembered as a dedicated community member and wishes for Ypsilanti to gain more recognition for its authentic, grounded character. She aspires for the city to be better appreciated for its real people and vibrant community spirit.

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  Linda Pritchard, Oral History Interview, 2018

  Matt Jones and Rachel Burns

  Linda Pritchard served as Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences at Eastern Michigan University from 2002 until 2005. Pritchard then joined the faculty in the History Department, and later played a vital role in the formation of the Women’s and Gender Studies Department, which she headed from 2008 until 2012. Returning to the classroom, Pritchard taught with the History Department until her retirement in 2016. In this interview, Pritchard begins by giving an account of her formative years in Lansing and Bakersfield, California, before summarizing her time at Arkansas State University as Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences. Pritchard extensively discusses her time at EMU, detailing the duties and hiring process of a College Dean, the success of particular programs she was involved in, and her philosophy of education, in which the importance of letter grades pale in comparison to the development of student communication skills, and a sense of empathy for the subjects and people around you in the greater world. Pritchard also discusses the economic hardships and personnel turnover of the early 2000’s, and the effects this instability had on the faculty’s ability to carry out job functions.

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  Linda Yohn, January 23, 2020

  Matt Jones

  Linda Yohn is said to have done more for jazz in Southeast Michigan than any other single person in her 30 years with WEMU. Six-time winner of the jazz programmer of the year award, frequent panelist at national conventions, and universally recognized for her commitment to all things jazz here and everywhere else. Yohn was given Emeritus status by Eastern Michigan University when she retired in 2017.

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  Lisa Green, Interview, 2023

  Christopher Durden

  In November of 2023, Eastern Michigan University’s LGBT Resource Center hosted an event in collaboration with the University Archives’ Oral History Program during Transgender Awareness Week where students could share their experiences with being part of the LGBT community on and off campus. EMU student Lisa Green talks about the importance of the Resource Center on campus, growing up as a queer child, and their journey to EMU.

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  Lisa Marshall Bashert, Oral History Interview, 2022

  Matt Jones

  In 2021, Eastern Michigan University Archives lecturer Matt Jones began documenting the story of Ypsilanti’s Human Rights Ordinance #1279 in an effort to explore the ways in which local queer activism has evolved multi-generationally in Ypsilanti. What began as a refusal of service by a local print shop to a small EMU student group quickly turned into a years-long battle over who was deserving of basic human rights. To the LGBTQ activists and community members documented here, they had always been present in the community: working, paying taxes, painting their houses, mowing their lawns, attending council meetings, and even serving on council. This ordinance battle was about more than just LGBT rights—it was about protecting the human rights of all Ypsilantians. On February 23 and March 2 of 2022, Jones talked with long time Ypsilantian, community organizer and activist, and member of Campaign for Equality and Citizens for Community, Lisa Marshall Bashert. When she moved to the Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti areas, Bashert found herself laying activist roots and finding acceptance despite her conservative religious upbringing. She volunteered with LGMPO, where she became close friends with Ayron Smith-Douglas, and got to know Jim Toy. Bashert participated in things like Take Back the Night marches at U of M, and the Washtenaw Rainbow Action Project. When the ordinance campaigns kicked off, she and her wife, Beth Bashert, became involved right from the start after experiencing discrimination in Ypsilanti themselves. From there, Bashert dedicated her time to supporting her community, forming close relationships with other members of C4C and YCFE, and organizing some of the earliest LGBTQ events in Ypsi. She became deeply entangled within the efforts, and recalls just how difficult it was to process things like the city council hearings and homophobia. In this interview, Bashert shares some of the ways that campaign members would try to process those feelings and how they supported each other. She also dives into some of the culture and community building programs she helped organize during the ordinance efforts, how her social world was shifting and changing, and how she's seen Ypsi's sense of community evolve.

  This interview contains discussion of topics that may be sensitive for some listeners, such as homophobic language and violence against queer people.

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  Lisa Zuber, Oral History Interview, 2022

  Matt Jones

  In 2021, Eastern Michigan University Archives lecturer Matt Jones began documenting the story of Ypsilanti’s Human Rights Ordinance #1279 in an effort to explore the ways in which local queer activism has evolved multi-generationally in Ypsilanti. What began as a refusal of service by a local print shop to a small EMU student group quickly turned into a years-long battle over who was deserving of basic human rights. To the LGBTQ activists and community members documented here, they had always been present in the community: working, paying taxes, painting their houses, mowing their lawns, attending council meetings, and even serving on council. This ordinance battle was about more than just LGBT rights—it was about protecting the human rights of all Ypsilantians. On January 3, 2022, Jones talked to community organizer, activist, and member of Ypsilanti Campaign for Equality, Lisa Zuber. Zuber had close ties to the ordinance early on thanks to her work with PFLAG in Ann Arbor, which granted her the opportunity to speak at the very first council meeting. She became an important figure in the ordinance campaigns from there, eventually taking on the role of volunteer coordinator in YCFE. Zuber worked tirelessly alongside her fellow community members and organizers, and ensured that all the canvassing and cold-calling ran smoothly. During the course of the campaigns, she formed a relationship with former city council-member John Gawlas, and they married on the anniversary of the ordinance's defense. In this interview, Zuber describes the level of coordination and work it took to successfully organize volunteers for the campaigns, the highs and lows of the movement, and how she's seen Ypsi change since then.

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  Liz Nowland-Margolis, Interview, 2024

  Micah Bookout

  Throughout 2024, the city of Ann Arbor celebrated its 200th anniversary with community events, festivals, and art displays that highlighted its rich culture and history. To cap off the celebrations, in December 2024 the EMU Center for Oral History Research invited community members to Skyline High School to share what makes Ann Arbor special. In this interview, Liz Nowland-Margolis talks about growing up in Ann Arbor, learning about her family's history, and community involvement.

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  Mable Jones, November 5, 2018

  Rachel Burns and Matt Jones

  Dr. Jones is an alumna of Eastern Michigan University, graduating in 1972. Her time is characterized by heavy involvement in student activism that included being a member of Campus Service Corps, the Black Student Association and discussions with administration after the take over of Pierce Hall in February 1969. Dr. Mable Jones came to Eastern as an Upward Bound student. Jones became the chief executive officer of Upward Bound at Wayne State University, and, since retiring, continues to serve the greater Detroit area in the field of child development.

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  Margaret "Peg" Porter, Oral History Interview, 2023

  Elizabeth Allen and Kat Hacanyan

  Margaret "Peg" Porter, is a longtime Ypsilanti resident, Roosevelt High School alumna, and involved with local history as a member of the Ladies Literary Society. In this interview, Porter discusses her experiences growing up in Ypsilanti in the 1950s. Porter also recounted her education at Roosevelt, highlighting the small class sizes and the impact of her polio diagnosis in 1955. She also shares her involvement in extracurricular activities, such as the newspaper and yearbook, and her later career in education and disability rights advocacy. Porter emphasizes the importance of community connections and the legacy of Roosevelt's students and teachers.

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  Marisa Deluge, Oral History Interview, 2023

  Marian Feinberg

  Marian Feinberg, an EMU Historic Preservation graduate student, interviews Marisa Deluge, a performance artist and Ypsilanti resident for 19 years, for the Ypsilanti Bicentennial Celebration. Marisa describes her deep connection to Ypsilanti, her involvement in local businesses, and her commitment to the community. She highlights the city's supportive and collaborative creative scene, its resilience, and its inclusivity, particularly for the LGBTQ+ community and people of color. Marisa hopes Ypsilanti will continue to support local businesses, elect diverse leaders, and acknowledge native lands by the next bicentennial. She values being remembered as someone who cares, is curious, and actively engages with the community.

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  Mark Margolis, Interview, 2024

  Micah Bookout

  Throughout 2024, the city of Ann Arbor celebrated its 200th anniversary with community events, festivals, and art displays that highlighted its rich culture and history. To cap off the celebrations, in December 2024 the EMU Center for Oral History Research invited community members to Skyline High School to share what makes Ann Arbor special. In this interview, long-time Ann Arbor resident Mark Margolis talks about running a small business, the vibrant community he's found, and the city's changing landscape.

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  Marshall Jennings, October 22, 2018

  Rachel Burns and Matt Jones

  Marshall Jennings is an alumnus of Eastern Michigan University. Jennings was a highly involved student activist, serving as a member of Campus Service Corps. Jennings was an instrumental figure in discussions with administration on bettering conditions for African American students on campus, Jennings began his professional career at Eastern Michigan University working for admissions through recruiting and counseling. Jennings worked for two years as a counselor and recruiter for Eastern before going on to a long and successful career in higher education administration.

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  Marshall McLennan, Oral History Interview, 2019

  Matt Jones and Alexis Braun Marks

  Dr. Marshall McLennan arrived at Eastern MIchigan University in 1971 and served the Department of Geography and Geology until his retirement in 1999. In this interview, McLennan details his upbringing in California, Nevada and the Philippines before serving in the U.S. military, stationed in Munich, Germany. After a brief flirtation with becoming a Hollywood actor and studying cultural geography at the University of California - Berkeley under the tutelage of Carl Sauer, McLennan settled in at EMU and, in 1979, co-founded the EMU Historic Preservation program with Dr. Andrew Nazzaro. As director of the program, McLennan initiated a study of mill sites along the Huron River with Nazzaro, and worked to create working relationships between the Historic Preservation program and state historic preservation agencies. Instilling in his students the concept that historic preservation has been long associated with the psychological wellbeing of a place, McLennan worked with colleagues and students to successfully prevent the destruction of EMU’s Welch Hall. McLennan also discusses how working for large preservation agencies like the State Historic Preservation Review Board and Heritage Interpretation International can inform your teaching.

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  Martha Verda, Oral History Interview, 2007

  Claudia Wasik

  Martha Verda came to Michigan State Normal College in 1952 as an assistant professor of Special Education, and later became the Director of the Counceling Center in 1967. In this interview, conducted by EMU Physical Eduation professor Claudia Wasik, Verda describes the state of women's athletics at MSNC in the 1950s and 1960s, and details the change in women's athletics from intramurals to intercollegiate competition. Verda also discusses the relationshiop between men's and women's athletics, and explains that no contact with men's athletics was often better than hving contact with them.

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  Martin "Marty" Shichtman, Oral History Interview, 2025

  Kat Hacanyan

  Martin "Marty" Shichtman is professor emeritus and the Founding Director of the Center for Jewish Studies at EMU. A professor of English and Literature for nearly four decades, Shichtman taught both graduate and undergraduate level courses in subjects like Arthurian literature and Jewish-American literature. During his tenure at EMU he introduced the first Jewish Studies class, which soon led to the creation of a Jewish Studies minor, and eventually the Center for Jewish Studies. Shichtman served as the center's director from its opening in 2012 to his retirement in 2022 and continues to be involved as a member of the advisory board. In this interview, Shichtman talks about growing up Jewish in Brooklyn, the establishment and growth of the Center, and how much he's seen the impact its had both on EMU students and himself.

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  "Marty," Interview, 2023

  Brooke Boyst

  On October 7, 2023, students from the EMU Archives and Oral History Program recorded the stories of EMU students past and present. Using the EMU Aerie, the Archives’ mobile oral history recording booth, student oral historians captured the formative experiences and perspectives of EMU alums from a variety of campus eras. Here, alum “Marty” (class of 1991) speaks of his first experiences on campus, mentor Carl Ojala, his work as a student employee at the Olds-Robb Recreation Center, and the importance of impactful management.

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  Mary Ellen Riordan, EMU Roles and Perspectives Interview, 1972

  Mary Ellen Riordan

  EMU Roles and Perspectives was taped television program broadcast from the campus of EMU, and produced by Robert Hoexter (1930-1978). Hoexter joined the faculty at the EMU School of Education in 1964, and served as Coordinator of Graduate Advising from 1969-1971. A member of the Faculty Senate from 1973-1976, Hoexter was elected vice-chairman from 1974-1975, and chairman, 1975-1976. In this episode of Roles and Perspectives, Hoexter interviews Mary Ellen Riordan, President Emerita of the Detroit Federation of Teachers, Local 231, AFL-CIO. Riordan blazed the trail for collective bargaining rights for teachers. This action resulted in the Michigan Legislature adopting the 1965 Public Employee Relations Act that gave teachers and all public employees the legal right to collective bargaining. Detroit was second only to New York in obtaining collective bargaining rights for teachers, a trend that would sweep the United States five years later. At her retirement, Ms. Riordan was president of one of the largest local unions in the nation, totaling more than 12,000 members. Before Riordan, no other union headed by a woman had exceeded several thousand members. In this discussion, Riordan answers the public perception that unionized public school teachers simply show up at 8:30, and leave at 3, exhibiting no passion for the job. Riordan details what it is that teachers are going home to: grading papers, contacting parents, organize lesson plans, making dinner for their families, etc. The aggression shown by teachers’ unions is not necessarily a reality, but more a fixation by the media to generate headlines, claims Riordan. While the media wants to talk about teacher salaries contributing to the struggling US economy, Riordan claims that what they should really be talking about are the enormous class sizes, lack of supplies, lack of textbooks, poor lunch programs, and the safety of students walking to and from school in Detroit.

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  Mary Larkin, Oral History Interview, 2024

  Matt Jones and Kat Hacanyan

  Mary Larkin was the second coordinator of the LBGT Resource Center at Eastern Michigan University from 2008 until 2019. In this interview, Larkin describes the atmosphere for queer students at EMU when she arrived as a student in 1995. Laying out the need for a dedicated center, Larkin explains the command structure of the LGBT-RC, and her place within it, detailing her running of the center in an inclusive manner where "it takes every insturment to make the band."

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  Mary Lou James, Oral History Interview, 2023

  Brooke Boyst and Matt Jones

  Mary Lou James was born and raised in Ypsilanti, Michigan, graduating from Roosevelt in 1947 and from Eastern Michigan University in 1951. In this interview Mary Lou explores her time growing up in Ypsilanti in the 1930s-40s, and recounts memories of going to Roosevelt revealing popular hangout spots, school dances, and what dating looked like back in the day. She also shares her experiences as a student at the Michigan State Normal College, being a sorority sister, and her marriage and children.

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  Mary & Terry Clark, Oral History Interviews, 2023

  Hilary Hill, Chris Baker, and Matt Jones

  Mary and Terry Clark are a married couple who began dating as elementary school students while attending the Roosevelt school. In this interview the couple speaks fondly of their time at Roosevelt, and each explain the extracurriculars they were involved in and the teachers that had an impact on their lives. They also discuss how they met, holding hands while walking to school, where the popular hang out spots were, and what the school meant to them.

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  Maya Walker, Interview, 2023

  Brooke Boyst

  On October 7, 2023, students from the EMU Archives and Oral History Program recorded the stories of EMU students past and present. Using the EMU Aerie, the Archives’ mobile oral history recording booth, student oral historians captured the formative experiences and perspectives of EMU alums from a variety of campus eras. Here, Early College Alliance student Maya Walker talks about her first day on campus and the initial shock of seeing such a large campus for the first time. She speaks on the importance of her Queer Literature class, and the usefulness of onsite testing during the pandemic.

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  Merrily Hart, Rachel Klayman, and Julie Roberts, Interview, 2024

  Alexis Braun Marks

  Throughout 2024, the city of Ann Arbor celebrated its 200th anniversary with community events, festivals, and art displays that highlighted its rich culture and history. To cap off the celebrations, in December 2024 the EMU Center for Oral History Research invited community members to Skyline High School to share what makes Ann Arbor special. In this interview, mother Merrily Hart and daughters Rachel Klayman and Julie Roberts talk about growing up in Ann Arbor close to family, attending the University of Michigan, and finding their ways back to each other after leaving.